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I have a question from one of the therapist and I am bringing it to the discussion group:

Shingles is quite a common cause of pain and is caused by virus Herpes Zoster to affect the spinal nerves. In the case of shingles, there is often excruciating burning pain following the intracostal nerve with vesicle eruptions – rash at the terminals of the nerve.

 

InterX could be a very good help for that.

 

Treatment should be started by scanning the whole spine (over spinal processes), very slowly to identify the exact level the virus is located on the spinal cord. You can easily see, especially in case of acute shingles by sudden profound ‘stickiness’ in that position and comparatively very high readings. Once the position is identified you should Point Stim the point and perform ‘Multi-Stim’ technique. Then, from that point, scan, following the nerve path and identifying other Active Sites and treating them as you go along. Do not attempt to treat the vascular rash unless the vesicles are erupted and clear. If the rash is clear you can use 90 – 360PPS

 
Topically on the rash, to improve healing, my recommendation is to use ‘Shinglesnomore’ (extra strength) natural substance that has a very high level of effectiveness on shingles. You or your patient can get it from forces of nature website:

http://www.forces-of-nature.org/shingles/shingles+treatment+herpes+zoster+remedy.htm 

Interx treatment should be applied for 20 to 30 minutes over the area. Your patient should feel a complete or almost complete pain reduction in the end. In acute phase of the shingles manifestation best to treat every day for three days and then once every other day. It should resolve the problem within a week at most.

 

If you are dealing with chronic shingles or post herpetic neuralgia, the treatments should be spread over more time, for example, twice a week for three weeks.

 

In my experience I found the InterX to be a very effective tool in managing pain with shingles. I invite the group to share your own findings and experience in treating shingles.

 



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Hello all

I am about to start treating someone who has an acute case of shingles. I will be interested in seeing the results.

Yesterday called in to see her having heard she was ill. due to a lack of time i did an ititial treatment on the soles of the feet and palms of the hands for 2 minutes on each chakra point to boost energy levels and give a better feeling of well being. This morning she reported less pain during the night but was sick. i hope to start proper treatments shortly.

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Ps - treatment was on setting 30-120

Also 2 mins on 90 -360 on acupoint LI 4

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I found the InterX very effective together with Takuna drops. Takuna is used to treat Herpes Zoster, hepatitis, EBV, Cytomegalo and Menigitis.
Also I advice my patients to buy a turtle-dove. This animal release a substance that is effective aggainst shingles. If you see the old Dutch paintings from the "Haagse School" school of The Hague you find many old paintings of a kitchen and a cage with a turtle-dove.
Patient must clean and take care of the dove himself to contact the substance as much as possible.

I always combine this with the InterX treatment on the 6 meridian points in the face because it releases stress. As Shingles is triggert by stress, I can advice this to to. My experience showed it works!

-- Edited by Hermen Grondijs on Monday 21st of September 2009 02:53:08 PM

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yes, i agree, stress is a main mediator for shingles that is why all anti-stress measures would improve the patient's state. if you comb hair with the 'comb' attachment also works well, 10 minutes would be just right. in women it may coinside with the menstrual cycle, just before the period...

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I am an undergrad student currently writing up my final year project

Have all of you used with InterX device on patients and how do find it works?

I conducted a series of experiments on ischemic pain to find no significant difference between treating areas of high and low AR vaules with the device.

I used the acute 180 setting on my participants and all 30 reported and increase in pain rather than a reduction in pain as you would expect as shown by supporting evidence from TENS studys


Would anyone like to comment?

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Dear colleague,

I am sorry that you didn’t get a result that you expected. My first thought was that you might not be familiar enough with the methodology and a formal training will be helpful in understanding the physiological aspects of interx therapy.

 

When you designed your study you should have chosen acute pain. Ischemic pain is mostly chronic by nature and is more difficult to have a uniformal treatment approach because the areas of application may vary from patient to patient.

 

1). When you are dealing with acute pain, most of the time you work where the pain is (although we know that sometimes it could be a contra-lateral position).
When you are dealing with chronic pain, often you work remotely, either at the corresponding spinal root or other zones like dermatomes, head or abdomen. For example, if you treat an arthritic knee or hip, you should always treat the opposite side of the shoulder and the neck, because it is a chronic process and is long lasting, so the body compensates. If people suffer with neuropathic or ischemic pain, you have to treat face and head first to provide general systemic effect and relaxation, but you never work on the area of pain itself (or work for a very short period of time).

2). Consequently, if you work with chronic pain instead of acute, the choice of signal frequency is wrong, what is happening, in chronic pain, particular in ischemic, nerve endings are already highly sensitised and fast stimulation produces even more pain effect.

3) There is a big difference in treating areas of high readings or areas of low readings. If you treat the area of low readings you won't get an effect because low readings represent areas of high skin impedance to electrical current; it means that the skin and underlying tissue minimally conducts current resulting in insufficient degree of stimulation for nociceptors. 

Our goal first is scan to identify the areas of low impedance and find the areas where the skin conducts current, it is crucial to the success, because we need to know where we are best influencing the body. As I mentioned before, the areas often not where a person is experiencing pain.

 

Activity readings reflect the degree of the skin impedance drop within the first minute of treatment. If you leave the device in skin contact at the area of low impedance, the skin becomes more conductive to the electrical pulsing current and the density of this current reaches the point of stimulation sufficient to affect fine nociceptors. In other words the skin stays conductive and the rate of the impedance drop keeps dropping until it reaches its maximum, at that point the device signals you “Point Stim”, that indicates that a sufficient amount of stimulation is achieved. Stimulation will reach the central nervous system and create the epicenter of awareness in the cortex of the brain. Response will be multidirectional through release of neuropeptides and endorphins providing pain relief.

 

If you immediately re-measure the point the number will still be high as a result of a very recent activity. But if you re-measure a few seconds later, you will see the number become more uniformly and this is an indication that biofeedback worked and the central nervous system has responded to stimulation.

 

A reason that you found area of low impedance (or high conductivity) in the first place is because inflammation attracts blood and lymph (local lymphoedema) which like any fluid impacts tissue conductivity and also associated sympathetic nerve (if inflammation is deep inside the body) fires a lot more actively causing increased sweat glands release of sweat. Sweat glands produce more sweat (electrolytes) and causes local increase in conductivity (or less resistance to electrical current), i.e. higher reading.

 

In your scenario with ischemic pain, that particular area does not receive adequate blood supply. As a result, there is an increased cellular hypoxia and acidosis, pain if primary due to oxygen starvation, not from damaged nerves, or inflammation, so your goal would be to provide blood supply as soon as possible by bringing blood through collaterals and to vasodilatate microcirculation to quickly remove accumulated toxic waste.

 

We know using InterX can achieve this, for this reason you should expand search, you should have taken a lot wider area for scan, finding inflamed areas around blocked blood supply I would work following the whole dermatome or the whole zone (like cervical or thoracic, depending on where the damage is),  but not at the site. I am positive that you would find the areas of stickiness and higher reading (significantly, for example, everywhere would be 23,25 and at some areas 56, or even over 100), then you should stimulate it using chronic presets.

 

I am glad that you are bringing your questions to this discussion, because like many start up therapists one has not enough experience and therefore has to replay on understanding the physiological background of the condition, identify the goals and choose correctly the following:

  • Type of pain
  • Adequate presets
  • Areas for scan and treatment
  • Frequency of procedures (often not frequently enough)

 

I am sure I haven’t covered these questions completely, I normally spend the whole day working with therapists explaining all the aspects of therapy.

 

I would like other therapists to contribute to this discussion, it is very important  and I am sure you have more questions, so fire up! thumbsup.gif



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